And I almost stopped blogging

Some time ago I posted a call to ban Secure Computing, the company that makes SmartFilter.
The reason: these guys are selling their software to Tunisia, which uses it to block pornography and political debate.

Today I got a comment from Mr. David Burt, PR manager, explaining that secure computing do not licence software to Iran, due to its strick adherance to the US embargo, and any Iranian ISP using SmartFilter was doing it illeagaly.

I almost flogged myself in public, but then I re-read my original post. Hang on Dude, I say, I was talking about Tunisia. What about Tunisia? You know, they are using your software to shut people up. I even warn him that I'm going to post his response.

Here it is:

We sell to ISPs where the law allows.  It's really up the customer how they use
our software. 

right. thanks. have a nice day.


full e-mail thread starts here:
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We sell to ISPs where the law allows.  It's really up the customer how they use
our software.


David Burt
Public Relations Manager

Secure Computing(r)
Securing connections between people, applications, and networks(tm)
www.securecomputing.com
NASDAQ: SCUR

1-206-336-1541 (Direct Phone)
1-800-971-2622 (Main Phone)
1-206-683-9508 (Mobile Phone)
1-206-834-1788 (Fax)
David_Burt@Securecomputing.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Yishay Mor [mailto:ymor@ukfsn.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:22 PM
To: Burt,David
Subject: Re: [Yishay's blabber] 6/23/2005 03:15:16 PM

First, filtering pornography is a breach of freedom of information. Although it may be acceptable in private institutions, it is not
justifiable on a national scale.
More importantly, apparently they filter much more:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200506061286.html

I would like to thank you for your responsiveness to my queries. With due respect, I think it is only fair to note that I intend to quote this
conversation on my blog. Please advise me what is Secure Computing's general policy on providing software to countries which use it to
repress civil liberties, with reference to Tunisia as a test case.

Thankfully,

Yishay Mor

Burt,David wrote:

<>We do sell SmartFilter to an ISP in Tunisia. They use it to block pornography sites.

David Burt
Public Relations Manager
Secure Computing(r)

-----Original Message-----
From: Yishay Mor [mailto:ymor@ukfsn.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:50 PM
To: Burt,David
Subject: Re: [Yishay's blabber] 6/23/2005 03:15:16 PM

Dear David,

I just noticed - my blog post referred to the use of SmartFilter in
Tunisia, not Iran. I'd like to hear your comment on that please.

Sincerely,

Yishay Mor

Burt,David wrote:

We don't have a press release or the statement online.  However AFP news
reported much of the statement here:
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/57604.asp

David Burt
Public Relations Manager

Secure Computing(r)

-----Original Message-----
From: Yishay Mor [mailto:y.mor@ioe.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:24 AM
To: Burt,David
Subject: Re: [Yishay's blabber] 6/23/2005 03:15:16 PM

Dave,

Since this was posted as an anonymous comment, I'd like to verify its authenticity.Also, if you have a press release on-line, please point me
to it so that I can link to it.

Best regards, and apologies for targeting you unjustly,

- Yishay Mor

Anonymous wrote:

Secure Computing has sold no licenses to any entity in Iran, and any use of Secure's software by an ISP in Iran has been without Secure
Computing's consent and is in violation of Secure Computing's End User License Agreement. We have been made aware of ISPs in Iran making
illegal and unauthorized attempts to use of our software. Secure Computing is actively taking steps to stop this illegal use of our
products. Secure Computing Corporation is fully committed to complying with the export laws, policies and regulations of the United States.
It is Secure Computing's policy that strict compliance with all laws and regulations concerning the export and re-export of our products
and/or technical information is required. Unless authorized by the U.S. Government, Secure Computing Corporation prohibits export and
reexport of Secure products, software, services, and technology to Iran and destinations subject to U.S. embargoes or trade sanctions.

David Burt, Public Relations Manager
Secure Computing(r)
1-206-336-1541 (Direct Phone)
1-206-683-9508 (Mobile Phone)
David_Burt@Securecomputing.com

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